Three Rivers Marathon Swim (3RMS) - Pittsburgh - 2017

evmoevmo San FranciscoAdmin
edited February 15 in Event Announcements
This discussion was created from comments split from: Three Rivers Marathon Swim (3RMS) - Pittsburgh - 2014.


  • timsroottimsroot Spring, TXCharter Member

    Is there any chance this goes mass start for 2017?

  • Leonard_JansenLeonard_Jansen Charter Member

    “Moderation is a fatal thing. Nothing succeeds like excess.” - Oscar Wilde

  • dpm50dpm50 PA, U.S.Senior Member
    edited January 4

    Pittsburgh--the city where I spent a lot of my childhood!

    Leonard, I notice they keep referring to teams. Is this swim a relay or solo or both? (I'm definitely not ready for that distance solo, but just curious.)

    If it's a relay, might be something to consider further down the road, depending on how many swimmers can be on a team and how they set up the relay--i.e., do people swim a certain amount of time, then next swimmer, etc. Or is by miles, i.e. 1st swimmer goes 5-10k, then next swimmer, the same distance, etc.?

    Right now my max swim is 8 miles, and I'm thinking about either another 8 miler or something slightly longer. I'm kind of a work in progress marathon swimming-wise. :)

  • timsroottimsroot Spring, TXCharter Member

    Leonard_Jansen said: Info here:


    I saw that, but it was vague as to its status for this year

  • ssthomasssthomas DenverCharter Member

    @ForeverSwim just had a baby- I think things are vague after you just have a baby. :-) I know he wants to make it open to as many people as possible, but babies sometimes change things (or so I've heard). I'm sure he'll update us all as soon as he knows. It's a great event!

  • timsroottimsroot Spring, TXCharter Member

    @ssthomas - we just had our second one, they do, I understand. I didn't realize they had a kid. Congratulations, @ForeverSwim!

  • NiekNiek Heiloo, NetherlandsCharter Member

    Babies and toddlers are fun but I'm glad both my daughters are over 21. :)

    Grandchildren that would be different. :D

    dpm50ForeverSwimIronMike - Cold, wind, waves, sunburn, currents, jellyfish and flotsam! Hop in and join the fun!

  • ForeverSwimForeverSwim Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaCharter Member
    edited January 5

    Good Morning! Thank you everyone for your interest in the 2017 3RMS. My apologies for being remiss, as it seems it has been a while since I've been on to post. Thank you @ssthomas for providing an update :-)

    The 2017 3RMS will be open for a mass start of 15 marathon swimmers on Saturday, September 23, 2017. This will be a solo event only with application available via the race website ( beginning April 1, 2017. I do not have a entrance fee as of this time, but as all of our 3RMS alumni know, we will keep it as affordable as possible. My dream for this race has always been about building as much camaraderie between swimmers as possible, and not worrying as much about the cost to get you there!

    We launch at 7AM with powered escorts, kayaking teams and all crew from Kayak Pittsburgh North Shore, ( and head over to "the Point" ( where swimmers will begin with a water start from the Point State Park Fountain. I wait until daybreak for safety reasons, so +/- 7:30AM.

    • Swimmers will have the option to bring (2) crew members aboard the powered escort which will follow the swimmer at a safe distance throughout the race
    • Swimmers will have two kayak volunteers to flank them at all times
    • Swimmers can bring their own kayakers with them, however, not their own kayaks. Part of the entrance fee goes to cover the kayaks from Kayak Pittsburgh North Shore who have been kind enough to allow us a 50% discount, plus the ability to launch from the Allegheny Landing dock
    • Crew, including own kayakers, will be made known via the race application

    Swimmers will swim north, current assist, along 5K of the Ohio River where they will turn around at Brunot Island, and swim 5K, against the current, back to the city. Once the swimmers hit the Point State Park 10K mark, they will begin swimming against the current to the half-way point (15K) on the Monongahela River, for the Hot Metal Bridge turnaround point Swimmers will return to the starting point once again for the 20K mark. Swimmers will make the turn around the Point, and head out against the tide of 5K of the Allegheny River to the 40th Street Bridge, and head back (current assist) the final 5K to the Point (along the city-side of the Allegheny) the original starting point, for a buoy finish. Swimmers will exit the water via their powered escort, and return to the Kayak Pittsburgh North Shore location. #rockstar

    Finishing awards, banquet dinner and dancing TBD!

    • Distance: 30K - 10K, out-and-back 5K, in each of the three rivers; Ohio (1) Monongahela (2) and Allegheny (3)
    • Format: 2 kayakers/swimmer, powered escort boat and Pittsburgh River Rescue/Police in support
    • Water Temperature: Wide range. Average 70F Low, 74F High; Air Temperature 56F Low, 71F High
    • Water Conditions: Usually calm during first 10K (Ohio River), boat traffic and potential headwinds churn up the Monongahela and the Allegheny Rivers. Overall, current is minimal. Keep in touch with local river conditions (
    • **Time Cutoff: **Strict 12-hours cut-off. 4-hour 10K pace. I don't want people out in the dark, and rather them alongside their fellow marathon swimmer at the finishing award banquet!
    • Swimming Attire: Wear your Speedo, cap and goggles kids...

    The 2017 3RMS will once again be a charity fundraising event for Team Forever, which directly benefits the Forever Fund at the UPMC Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh. Please visit for a history of the charity, with full financial reports since 2010 always available for review. Interested swimmers can stay tuned to my website, Facebook updates (3RMS page coming soon), the Marathon Swimmers Forum. You are always welcome to direct any questions to me at

    Looking forward to the world coming to the 'City of Bridges' this September!

    Cheers to ADVENTURE!

    Darren E. Miller, Race Director

    AnthonyMcCarleyJSwimslknightevmothelittlemerwookiedpm50stephenrouchssthomastimsrootaafairmanMaryStellaTMcQueenIronMikephodgeszoho Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

  • timsroottimsroot Spring, TXCharter Member

    I grew up a few hours away from Pittsburgh. I've been interested in this swim since you first started publicizing it a few years ago. I'm very interested. Thank you in advance for putting it on.

  • dpm50dpm50 PA, U.S.Senior Member

    Sounds very exciting. I'm not at 30k level now, but if you have it in 2018....

  • ForeverSwimForeverSwim Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaCharter Member
    TMcQueenAnthonyMcCarleythelittlemerwookieDanSimonellitimsrootssthomasChrisgreene Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

  • timsroottimsroot Spring, TXCharter Member

    Is registration going live this weekend?

  • ssthomasssthomas DenverCharter Member

    I think I saw that there was a website issue and registration is going live on Earth day, but I can't find where I saw that...

  • timsroottimsroot Spring, TXCharter Member

    @ssthomas - just making sure i didn't miss something.

  • JustSwimJustSwim Member

    Sarah you are correct. According to a Facebook post yesterday the registration will open April 22nd, or otherwise known as Earth Day.

  • ForeverSwimForeverSwim Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaCharter Member


    We go live with the #3RMS application on Saturday, April 22!! Please check the Three Rivers Marathon Swim homepage on Facebook, or the Marathon Swimmers Forum or swim website at for continued updates and swim application.

    The 2017 3RMS selection will be very simple and straight-forward. Interested swimmers will complete the application, and the first 15 applications which are scanned and emailed back will be selected. There is not a lottery, or selection committee. Payment will be due via check within 14-days after you have been notified.

    Let’s get excited!!

    Darren Miller, Race Director

    JSwimJBirrrdAnthonyMcCarleystephenrouchChrisgreene Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

  • ForeverSwimForeverSwim Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaCharter Member

    2017 3RMS UPDATE!! Only a few more days until we go LIVE!! Cannot wait to bring the world to Pittsburgh!!

    Past Articles: ◦2016: ◦2015: ◦2014:

    Want more specific information? ASK AN ALUMNI Melodee Nugent, Anthony McCarley, Janet Manning, Sarah Thomas, John Humenik, Kristin Jones, Chris Greene, Kimberly Plewa.

    timsrootssthomasIronMikeChrisgreene Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

  • ForeverSwimForeverSwim Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaCharter Member

    The 2017 #3RMS Application has officially posted!! Best of luck to all of our interested swimmers!! Can't wait for September!

    JSwimtimsroot Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

  • ForeverSwimForeverSwim Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaCharter Member

    Proud to announce we have already filled 6 of 15 slots for the 2017 #3RMS!! Let's keep those applications coming!!

    timsrootssthomas Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

  • timsroottimsroot Spring, TXCharter Member

    Glad I filled out my application this morning

  • ForeverSwimForeverSwim Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaCharter Member

    ...MAKE THAT 8!! Race is filling up fast!! Who will be our 9th swimmer?! #3RMS

    JBirrrdJSwimssthomas Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

  • ForeverSwimForeverSwim Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaCharter Member

    One day since we posted the application, and we are already 11 swimmers strong for 2017 - THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR EXCITEMENT! Swimmers from VT to CA! We have 4 remaining slots; get your application for #3RMS today!!

    JSwimtimsrootssthomas Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

  • ForeverSwimForeverSwim Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaCharter Member
    edited April 25

    THIRTEEN STRONG!! Very thankful for all the enthusiasm!! 2 SLOTS LEFT!!

    JSwim Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

  • timsroottimsroot Spring, TXCharter Member

    For those interested, which I understand may not be all that many:

    I was curious how quickly the rivers flow, given that half of this swim is upstream. While there are links to the volumetric flow rates from the race website, turning that into linear speed is not all that simple, given that you need the cross sectional area at a given point, and all sorts of other variables. However, I was able to find this helpful website, that does a rough job at turning reported flow rates (available through NWS or USGS) into linear speeds.

    Short answer: I still need to work on speed work, but not as badly as I thought. Thankfully.

  • ForeverSwimForeverSwim Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaCharter Member

    Tim, Thanks for the post! In our experience (since 2013) the Allegheny River flow has been stronger than the Ohio and the Monongahela. During the 2014 race, our swimmers fought off a stronger flow as they swam north, however the benefit was a nice current coming back! It was a 3/1 time differential based on the final out-n-back leg of the last 10K. I like to keep this as the third leg because it is the most picturesque with the city skyline and the North Shore (PNC Park; yes, the Pirates will be battling the Cardinals as you swim back!) on both sides. The other years, there was still a slight flow, however, nothing a well-trained swimmer couldn't handle. Looking forward to continue posting updates.


    JSwimAnthonyMcCarley Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

  • timsroottimsroot Spring, TXCharter Member

    ForeverSwim said: (PNC Park; yes, the Pirates will be battling the Cardinals as you swim back!)

    I looked at their schedule. Depending on what's what, I might delay my travel home to watch Sundays game. Unless there's a penguins game...

  • ForeverSwimForeverSwim Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaCharter Member
    edited May 3

    2017 3RMS - LIST OF SWIMMERS!!


    Devon Clifford, Mamaroneck, New York
    Paula Yankauskas, Hyde Park, Vermont
    Tiffany McQueen, Fort Hood, Texas
    Erica Flickinger, Phoenixville, Pennsylvania
    Janice Burton, Frostburg, Maryland
    Abigail Fairman, New York, New York


    John Batchelder, Littleton, Colorado
    John Humenik, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Leonard Jansen, Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania
    Tim Root, Spring, Texas
    Stephen Rouch, Indianapolis, Indiana
    Christopher Graefe, Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts
    Thomas Minnock, Mars, Pennsylvania
    Kenneth Lehman, Wexford, Pennsylvania
    Kyle Gallagher, Rockville, Maryland

    JSwimSpacemanspiffswimrn62IronMikeAnthonyMcCarleydpm50 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

  • ForeverSwimForeverSwim Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaCharter Member
    edited May 3
  • IronMikeIronMike Moscow, RussiaCharter Member
    edited May 4

    ForeverSwim said: 2017 3RMS - LIST OF SWIMMERS!!

    Thomas Minnock, Mars

    And the winner of the "Came Farthest to Swim this Race" trophy goes to...

  • ForeverSwimForeverSwim Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaCharter Member
    edited September 15

    One week away from the 2017 3RMS!! Thought I would throw out a nice race report from @ssthomas on her 2015 3RMS adventure for all our swimmers coming to Pittsburgh this coming week!! CHEERS :)

    First off- this is a beautiful swim. There are about a million cool old bridges to swim under and a fun mix of urban swimming and swimming in nature. It was surprising to me how quickly city turned to trees and back again. I also got my fair share of backstroke in swimming under the bridges- probably the most backstroke I've done in one day EVER!

    It started with a pre-race meeting on Friday evening, that I missed. Fortunately, Darren and Alli were able to give me the run down pretty quickly and John Humenik walked me to where the start was. The race course is pretty simple- Start in the Allegheny, swim about a 6k out into the Ohio, swim around the island and back to the Monongahela. Swim a 5k up the Monagahela, turn around and swim back to the Allegheny. Swim a 5k up the river and a 4k back to the finish, for a 30k total. Since we had two kayakers each (I had my amazing sister Melody and the wonderful Alli to look after me) and a pretty straight forward course, I wasn’t worried about getting lost.

    Saturday morning, we all met around 6:15 at the start and got started pretty much right on time at 7:30 am. Just before the race started, John asked if I’d like to swim together for the day. It seemed like a good idea, so after a short tactical discussion about feed schedules (he feeds every 20 minutes to my 30), we were all set. We all jumped in for the start, Darren gave us a 10 second count down (before I had a chance to finish peeing!), and we were off. The water was 80 degrees, which is boiling hot for me, but I think the others were fine with it. Four of us, myself, John, Kristin and Chris, swam together for the first 40 minutes or so. After that, John and I slowly pulled away, though Kristin and Chris were never too far behind. It was Kimberly’s longest swim ever, and reports were that she was happy for the entire swim.

    John and I managed to swim happily together all day. Well, it was happily on my end. You’d have to ask him to be sure about his opinion. We fell into a pretty good rhythm pretty early on and seemed to hold a steady pace throughout the day. I never got overly hot since there was some pretty decent cloud cover off and on most of the day. We had my feeds on dry ice, so they were delightfully cold all day. One of my favorite moments of the day was when we came around the point from the Mon into the Allegheny, we saw John’s dad and sister cheering us on. His sister even jumped in for a little to swim with us. Turns out she took a turn with all of us throughout the day.

    The only time I noticed the boat traffic was the last 10k in the Allegheny, but our kayakers did a great job of keeping the boats away, so other than the occasional terrifying underwater whir of a quickly approaching boat and then the following waves from their wake, it wasn’t too stressful. We caught a little current the last hour on the Allegheny, which was nice. As we approached the finish, John started to sprint, so I had to sprint harder to catch up. We tagged the finish buoy together at 7 hours and 48 minutes. That’s definitely the longest I’ve ever swum side by side with someone- and I have to say it was pretty fun. John and I both had moments we were struggling, and it was nice (at least for me) to have someone else there to share it with.

    Darren ran a really fun race- it was well supported and organized. I’m sure there are a million things to consider if he opens it up to more than 5 of us, but I really hope he can get everything nailed down for the future because this is a swim worth swimming! And, as it always is, it was fun to meet new swimmers and to hear about where they were at in their swimming journeys.

    Thanks for a great swim, Darren!

    JSwimdpm50timsrootIronMikessthomas Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

  • evmoevmo San FranciscoAdmin has Abby Fairman, Tim Root, Christopher Graefe, Jan Burton, John Humenik, John Batchelder, Stephen Rouch, and Paula Yankauskas

    there are a few others swimming, but did not sign up for the tracking

  • timsroottimsroot Spring, TXCharter Member

    What a great swim. Kudos to @ForeverSwim, and we couldn't have asked for better weather. It was really hard, and I'm going to be really really sore, but I'm so glad I came for this awesome event

  • ForeverSwimForeverSwim Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaCharter Member

    2017 #3RMS OFFICIAL RESULTS!!! 7:27:26 John Humenik/Stephen Rouch New Course Record 8:04:05 Christopher Graefe 9:07:34 Abby Fairman 9:31:33 Devon Clifford 9:44:22 Tim Root 10:06:52 Jan Burton 10:10:40 John Batchelder Butterfly 10:38:27 Kyle Gallagher 11:42:45 Paula Yankauskas 11:51:12 Tom Minnock

    Race Report in the coming days!!

    JSwimlakesprayJustSwim Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

  • dpm50dpm50 PA, U.S.Senior Member
    edited September 24

    Congratulations to all! Awesome performances, course record.... and BUTTERFLY?! My very, very humble goal: swim 100 fly in a meet!

    Freestyle I can last hours. Fly.... once did a 50 fly in a meet (at my coach's urging) and seriously wondered how ppl lasted 200 let alone marathon swims. So I've made it a goal to improve this stroke w the idea that it could also help my freestyle speed.

    18 miles fly?! INSPIRED!

  • ssthomasssthomas DenverCharter Member

    John and I swam the same amount of time at our lake the other day. He was doing fly, and I was doing free. I got to the finish point sooner, so I swam back out to meet him. I thought (stupidly), "I'll swim the last bit fly with him." I swam about 150 yards and almost died. John gained a solid 15 yards on me over that time as well, even though he'd been swimming fly for an hour and a half already. It's impressive. Though, my fly is horrid, so it's probably not a good comparison. ;-)

  • dpm50dpm50 PA, U.S.Senior Member

    If you lastep 150 yds, your fly isn't too horrible! And how many can go over 100 miles free

    ssthomas said: John and I swam the same amount of time at our lake the other day. He was doing fly, and I was doing free. I got to the finish point sooner, so I swam back out to meet him. I thought (stupidly), "I'll swim the last bit fly with him." I swam about 150 yards and almost died. John gained a solid 15 yards on me over that time as well, even though he'd been swimming fly for an hour and a half already. It's impressive. Though, my fly is horrid, so it's probably not a good comparison. ;-)

  • ForeverSwimForeverSwim Pittsburgh, PennsylvaniaCharter Member
    edited October 5

    The 2018 Three Rivers Marathon Swim (3RMS) registration will go LIVE on Ultra Sign-Up on January 1, 2018!! Like our 2017 event, we will accept up to 15 swimmers, and will close registration after we reach our limit. Last year we sold out under 24-hours, so if you're interested in challenging 30K of the Ohio, Monongahela and Allegheny Rivers surrounding Pittsburgh make sure you set the date in your swim calendar ;) You can find the registration link already up and ready to go at:

    Cheers, Darren Miller, Race Director

    timsrootMaryStella Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

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