No more cold water training required! What next?!

firebahfirebah Member
edited October 2012 in General Discussion
Great news we no longer have to train to be able to withstand cold water. Of course in this case the water will be a 'cold' mid 80's for the swim. http://diananyad.com/prep-for-hypothermia/
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  • bobswimsbobswims Charter Member
    Is it just me, or does anyone else think a squeeze bicycle water bottle with heated water over the head and neck in would work better? This guy has too much time on his hands.
  • I await the introduction of inflatable arm bands to Channel swimming with great excitement.
  • WalterWalter Member
    edited July 2012
    Please make mine with a longer hose so that I can have self-serve "sunshine" showers between stops as well.
    I'm not very popular around here; but I'm huge in Edinburgh!
  • Will she be doing so little swimming that she won't be generating any body heat? I'm confused.

    I guess I applaud her tenacity, and she's done much longer swims than I have, but wouldn't it get old trying and not succeeding at the same swim over and over and over? I'd think you'd want to try something else.

    Hopefully she makes it across this time, then we can stop hearing about her.
  • david_barradavid_barra Charter Member
    edited July 2012
    taking the extreme out of the dream... one degree at a time
    ...anything worth doing is worth overdoing.
  • ViveBeneViveBene Member
    edited July 2012
    I was pretty sure Channel rules required the consumption of hot chicken soup, with the unconsumed portion thrown over head and shoulders for warmth.
    This conjures up a Chick O'Sea drawing of a chicken sitting atop a swimmer's head, both heading into the shipping lanes...
  • WaterGirlWaterGirl Charter Member
    I wonder if she's planning to sleep. That would explain why she'd be worried about getting cold.

    I think sleeping in the water might be a good strategy. Those currents are insane. The window for swimming straight thru on a perfect day is practically impossible. If Penny wasn't fast enough (on any given Sunday), I don't see how Dianne could hope to be. Being ready to spend a whole lot of time in the water seems like the only way she might be able to complete it.
  • evmoevmo San FranciscoAdmin
    Response from Diana, with comments from @david_barra and others:

    http://diananyad.com/response-to-heat-drip-dialogue
  • WalterWalter Member
    Wow. Seems like people who don't have much knowledge about OWS (not talking about Dave) actually follow her and care enough to comment. I think that's nice.
    I'm not very popular around here; but I'm huge in Edinburgh!
  • AquaRobAquaRob Charter Member
    I keep checking up on this one... the comments continue to get more interesting... I enjoy people calling out @david_barra without realizing he has a rather substantial ows resume behind him and is, in my opinion, one of the most legit dudes in the open water scene right now
  • david_barradavid_barra Charter Member
    AquaRob said:

    I keep checking up on this one... the comments continue to get more interesting... I enjoy people calling out @david_barra without realizing he has a rather substantial ows resume behind him and is, in my opinion, one of the most legit dudes in the open water scene right now

    well it takes a legit dude to know a legit dude! (is that a line from the big lebowski?)
    you are too kind, my friend.
    I never considered that the wrath of the dream team would be unleashed upon me for stating the obvious! oh... the interwebs can be so fun!
    ...anything worth doing is worth overdoing.
  • NiekNiek Heiloo, NetherlandsMember
    edited August 2012
    Diana Nyad to Sport New Jellyfish-Proof Wetsuit for Cuba to Florida Swim
    http://youtu.be/bmmINI6_CSc and http://youtu.be/jCC4qU5Q4SQ
    I wonder if that suit has the warm water tubes build in. ;-)
    Now all she needs a very big shark shield to fit her ego. :-D
    http://openwaterswimming.eu - Cold, wind, waves, sunburn, currents, jellyfish and flotsam! Hop in and join the fun!
  • Niek, regardless of what I think of the specifics I don't think anyone is served by insulting each other. After all, the abuse Dave Barra and others over there received on Diana's blog hasn't served the overall discussion well and I don't think we should do the same. Diana asked me on Twitter to comment on her blog but after seeing the abuse received why would I bother? Instead the argument becomes haranguing by non-swimmers.

    I would question what "Approved by the sport of ocean swimming" means, it seems to be conferring a legitimacy to discussions such as we've had here and elsewhere that I was unaware existed.

    I dislike also how she conflates issues. She mentions Finis as designing gear for Olympic issues and immediately adds herself, apparently using the current Olympics to confer some kind of legitimacy. Then she goes on to talk about the increase of jellies worldwide, which is true to seems to imply we will all be doing this soon.

    But we have widely discussed stinger suits and rash guards here, and can do so again but it is not right that we accept Penny and dismiss Diana over the same issue because of concerns with other aspects of Diana's swim(s).

    I wouldn't swim across the outflow from Sellafield Nuclear Power Station because I'd consider it too dangerous. Same over lava flows, live electrical wires or extremely polluted water, crocodiles, piranha or many different dangers. I fail to understand why jellyfish at the same level of danger means it's suddenly ok to wear a suit and confers a special status.
  • NiekNiek Heiloo, NetherlandsMember
    edited August 2012
    I had no intention to insult anyone.
    It was more meant as a joke. Bit sarcastic maybe but still a joke.

    But besides all that. I don't think it's legal what is happening when Diana asked Bonny to help her put on the stinger suite. Diana mentions herself that grabbing the boat is illegal. But the way Bonny is holding her up and steady her while she puts her arm in the suite is in the same category.
    http://openwaterswimming.eu - Cold, wind, waves, sunburn, currents, jellyfish and flotsam! Hop in and join the fun!
  • Ok Niek, I didn't want to sound heavy handed, I agree with most of what you say also. I wrote an article as a response to a Twitter request from Diana Nyad, but kept it on my site rather than join the circus. I'm expecting the attacks by the Xtreme Dream stormtroppers will start in a few hours.
  • IronMikeIronMike Bishkek, KyrgyzstanCharter Member
  • bobswimsbobswims Charter Member
    edited August 2012
    Niek said:

    Diana Nyad to Sport New Jellyfish-Proof Wetsuit for Cuba to Florida Swim
    http://youtu.be/bmmINI6_CSc and http://youtu.be/jCC4qU5Q4SQ
    I wonder if that suit has the warm water tubes build in. ;-)
    Now all she needs a very big shark shield to fit her ego. :-D

    "Approved by the sport of ocean swimming"

    "The jellyfish are becomming an issue world wide, and for ocean swimmers, we are beginning to have to resort to tactics like this"

    This is so absurd. It would be funny if it wasn't so . . . . arrogant. If you want to use a jelly suit knock yourself out. Frankly I don't care, but don't feel the need to speak on behalf of ocean swimming athletes. Worse is that to the general public Diana is the name and face of the sport. I find her claim that she is speaking on behalf of all of us to be offensive.

    Hey Diana, I hear the shark population may be increasing. Time to get the shark cages back out again. Or should I say it's time for the participants in the sport of ocean swimming to get their shark cages out.
  • IronMikeIronMike Bishkek, KyrgyzstanCharter Member
    @bobswims, is this a call for an international federation for ocean swimmers? ;)
  • WaterGirlWaterGirl Charter Member
    I've always kind of liked Diane Nyad because she tries hard, she wears her heart on her sleeve, and her athletic accomplishments are impressive. In general, I try to give her the benefit of the doubt.

    But the crazy stuff she's said lately makes me sick to my stomach. It's like she's in her basement filming a documentary on how to invent the wheel from scratch.

    It doesn't bother me that her followers don't know anything about marathon swimming. It does bother me that she seems not to. For example, people have already tackled the problem of avoiding hypothermia in 85-degree water.
  • bobswimsbobswims Charter Member
    IronMike said:

    @bobswims, is this a call for an international federation for ocean swimmers? ;)

    No. I am thinking more along the lines of a United Federation of Ocean Swimmers. (No Klingons need apply.)
  • IronMikeIronMike Bishkek, KyrgyzstanCharter Member
    @WaterGirl, I've been avoiding reading most of the Nyad stuff, but it's hard to avoid. It is annoying that many of my (non-swimming) friends know all they know about marathon swimming through reading about Nyad.
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